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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Oct 18, 2008 16:26:10 GMT -5
I'm a helper!
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Post by Cloud Strife on Oct 19, 2008 2:03:46 GMT -5
Well, Since I'm playing an Older version of Cloud, I think he would be able to see the bigger picture.
I don't think he would want it to stay the way it is, however. He put his life on the line to save the world( Twice, Mind you ) and now all that work was basically wasted; His motivations for killing Sephiroth are alive ( And one of them is teamed up with the guy ), Sephiroth himself is alive...It's like he fought for nothing.
However, he's not above fighting alongside a Seymour or a Reno to win against a bigger foe. Hell, he might just be the one to do the back-stabbing. He may be a hero, but that doesn't mean he can't cheat.
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Post by Seltzer Grenadine on Oct 19, 2008 2:38:05 GMT -5
All the cool kids are doing it! Setzer would be pretty adamant that things go back to the way they were. Yeah, he loves Aerith to death, and yeah he's made some great friends here, but if keeping it this way means that his friends may or may not be there, or that things and people are constantly fading in and out of reality, then he'll be pushing for fixing it. Even if it means realizing that Xenos isn't the bad guy after all. Even if it means, in the long run, hurting the feelings of those he's come to know in Hybrid. This is not to say he'd want to make a war of it. He'd do his best to keep his new friends safe, even if they were out to get him. When it comes to siding with villains... that's toughie. I suppose so long as it's not a certain Court Jester, then all is well. XD What about you, Alex?
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Oct 19, 2008 4:32:48 GMT -5
I believe Alexander openly assaulted Sephiroth when the Mimic attacked us way back when, and only stopped because Zack got in the way and then because Sephiroth wasn't tingling his Holy Senses. He then threatened to kill Sephiroth if he ever so much as sneezed in an evil manner.
Oh by the way, that's probably going to be an issue on the Falcon. XD
So no, Alexander is not up for working with villains for any reason. An actively malevolent force, like Kefka, will always be perceived as a greater threat than a mindless destructive force, like Sin. Even though Sin is more powerful (statues notwithstanding), it's not actually taking pleasure in its actions. It's a threat he would deal with, of course, but he would sooner work with it to kill Kefka than vice versa. He'd rather fight alone against the odds than alongside someone who might betray him as soon as the battle/trip/adventure is over.
Now, fighting/traveling alongside someone he trusts who refuses to leave the side of someone he distrusts or is outright hostile to? He can do that, if only to protect the person he trusts from backstabbing.
As for his thoughts on the world, I put those in my first post.
Adel is willing to team up with pretty much anyone to get whatever she wants, no matter how unpleasant she finds them. Well, except for Laguna and Odine, obviously.
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Post by Tseng on Oct 19, 2008 10:48:37 GMT -5
Sounds like all the heroes are pretty divided down the middle about what to or not to do if it comes down to working with or against the villains at certain junctures. I wonder if it came down to such a situation if all the characters would end up in a giant mexican standoff. Personally, I think it would make for a grand final battle to have everyone going at each other not knowing who, if anyone, was on their side. Friends betraying friends to work along side enemies and bonds of trust being broken for the sake of the many.
In the end, it really would depend on which side had the most powerful or at least the largest number of PCs. Even if the situation doesn't boil down into a fight, the strongest side would be the ones with the power necessary to either stabilize the world as is or seperate them again into component parts. Of course, I'm excluding any outside interference from forces that have yet to show themselves right now.
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Post by Vivi Orunitia on Oct 19, 2008 11:04:20 GMT -5
I think that Vivi would only team up with a villain if he didn't know (s)he was a villain. Vivi could be tricked pretty easily, although he does have a pretty good instinct. Although I think that he would have a very difficult time if people he had come to trust teamed up with others to keep the world the way it was, if he ever figures out what Hybrid actually is.
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Fujin
Lvl 2
Even though I've lived clumsily until now, I'll still try to do what's right.
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Post by Fujin on Oct 19, 2008 17:26:14 GMT -5
Thus far, Fujin has no stake in keeping Hybrid the way it is. Seifer and Raijin aren't here, Balamb is in ruins, and there's no telling what will happen with the Sorceresses. The only means by which one might convince her to leave things as they are is that, should things return to normal, she would have to watch Seifer walk down the same path she did before. However, even -that- wouldn't necessarily convince her. After all, Ultimecia isn't the only one who would believe that things can be changed. I think she would believe that Seifer could act differently in a restored world, that he wouldn't bend to Ultimecia's will. It means she might have to live with what happened to Esthar and to Seifer, but it's a smaller price to pay than living without her friends.
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Oct 19, 2008 18:48:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately for those siding to keep Hybrid as it is, which seems to be almost nobody anyways, that's not quite the case. The people who want to separate the world might be able to keep trying to split it even if the world is stabilized, although that might make it harder to do. Those siding with Hybrid can only win if stabilizing it will make the world inseparable.
Also, I'm seeing that you all either want to separate Hybrid or you're unsure. So then I'll ask you another question:
What if Cloud spent more time with Zack and Aerith? What if Fujin met up with Seifer from a time before Ultimecia got to him? What if Kefka realized he had died in FFVI? What if Reno and Tseng got orders from Shinra to keep the world as-is? What if Setzer ran into Daryl? What if Tifa reunited with her father? What if Vincent met Lucrecia? What if Vivi realized that all his Black Mage friends didn't necessarily have to suffer a limited lifespan here? What if Xenos started running into his old SeeD buddies from before the unpleasantness with Ultimecia?
What would it take for your character to switch sides?
What would it take for them to switch back?
What's a third dramatic question I can ask here? >.>
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Post by Vivi Orunitia on Oct 19, 2008 19:01:36 GMT -5
what if changing the world back meant that your character would be lost in the fold? that is a good question I think.
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Post by Tseng on Oct 19, 2008 19:16:01 GMT -5
Okay so we last left on Total Drama Planet, the B team had managed to stop a freezer from... uh... sorry wrong shows.
Yeah, I see what you mean there are quite a few interesting twists can come of this. ShinRa's orders are important to Tseng though the safety of his Turks are the number one priority when in the field. Any orders that would amount to suicide for a Turk (a different scale when compared to normal people's or even SOLDIER opinions of what is suicidal). However, I know figure that Reno as his second in command would probably have a few words with him since Tseng didn't look he would have survived his encounter with Mr. Pointy Sword Bishounen Kill Box.
Granted, the entire situation gets even more complicated when you factor in the fact that Tseng has no clue what happened to Aerith after his death. Discovering the fact that she dies too would have a profound impact on him as she represents a decided weakness in his Turkish psyche. In fact, I would go as far to say that depending on what was said; Aerith might be the deciding factor for which way Tseng would swing when it came to whether or not Hybrid should be seperated or not.
I will say that there is one other factor which is what side is Hojo on? Of course no one is playing Hojo right now, but it is something that he would have to factor into his equations.
In the end, it would be his heart vs. his head and interesting twist indeed. Never an easy choice.
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Auron
Lvl 2
This is your story now.
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Post by Auron on Nov 5, 2008 8:04:07 GMT -5
Wow, I've missed a bit.
Hmm...as far as I can see, Auron would be plagued by strange sensations of doubt. Usually, he finds himself dead-set certain on the course of action to take, often leading fools such as Tidus in the right direction (no offence to the actual role player, just the character himself lol). Yet, with all the going's on, all these new faces and these things that obviously have no connections to Spira, he'd likely find himself confused to a degree of what to actually do.
Currently, lost beyond belief, after following the golden/white armoured man onto the airship of a different make to what he was familiar with; Auron is left with no real idea as to what's going on. When he's managed to ask some questions, and have them answered, he might just learn something. But until such a time, he'll remain clueless, and just pretty much stick out of anything that could really harm him. If he can find someone, say Tidus for example, or Yuna, hell, even Kimahri, for god's sake, he'll be more comfortable, because he won't exactly be so lost.
Having a memory of his own disappearance after the defeat of Sin, yet seeing Sinspawn (which, so far as he were aware, could only appear if Sin itself was alive and kicking), and he himself being alive again has left him more than just thoroughly confused. It's left him completely mind-fucked. He can't really formulate logical solutions, nutil he has some idea of what has happened.
Though, when he does see, say; Seymour, his first instict would likely be to attack. He would be less than impressed to let him survive, as he knows exactly what Seymour's intention was, and likely still is. If he encounters anyone else from his world, like, O'aka for example, he'd just ask them what they know, as they all respect - and probably to some degree, fear - him, he'd expect some kind of response.
I wonder if that makes anything clear. And it gives me more to go by in RP. Hell yes.
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Post by Tseng on Nov 5, 2008 8:40:27 GMT -5
It's interesting to see that Tseng isn't the only confused by his apparent demise and sudden emergence back into the world. I wonder if Tseng and Auron would have much to talk about were they to be somehow coaxed into talking more than usual and to run into each other under decent circumstances. The situation really goes so show that perhaps certain individuals have alot more to lose by a given outcome than they would first suspect. In addition, I would have to say that in hindsight; it would be awesome if some of the heroes became even more misguided and ended up becoming darker villains in their effort to pave a larger road with good intentions.
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Post by Vincent Valentine on Nov 6, 2008 4:06:15 GMT -5
What would it take for your character to switch sides? In my case, I'd say something really profound would have to occur. Say, for example, resurrection of his love; Lucrecia, and her not being altogether on the side he'd have thought to be good. If she were to side with Xenos (once he has learnt more as to the workings of this strange new world) he would probably follow. However, he'd need some strong form of both encouragement and evidence that what Xenos was doing was best for the world. To fix all the wrong that has occurred, all the atrocities of man, and perhaps even set a few things straight by ridding the world of Sephiroth, if he thought it possible to remove all traces of him from his world before everything righted itself.
What would it take for them to switch back? Any number of things. Returning to his good senses of his own accord, Lucrecia's use being say 'outlived', and being tossed aside like a puppet. Cloud and company proving that whatever he was told, was a lie. Etc. Or he could just find that Xenos' plans aren't entirely in the best interest of the world, or the likes.
Oh man, oh man...RP might just get further interesting...........
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