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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Dec 6, 2007 16:30:47 GMT -5
Who are you talking to? Last time I checked, big boobs were still popular. Maybe I should check again... >.>
Anyways, I like girls that have a masculine edge to them whether it's in body or in mind, but they don't have to be skinny. I'd rather they didn't weigh like 300 lbs, but being skinny isn't topping my list of desirable physical attributes any time soon. Healthy weight is better than either of the two extremes.
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Post by Xenos on Dec 6, 2007 16:33:55 GMT -5
No no, Alex! I mean like stick girls. Like toothpicks. Not attractively thin but grossly so. It happens a lot in highschool. These girls diet so much that they lose all of their body fat so that their hips narrow out and their boobs shrink so that all they have left are shoulders and SOMEHOW men are attracted to this. Look at ANY movie and then take off the lead female's fake rack. That's what men are attracted to.
Setzer.... I could say so much, but I'll hold off for the public sake. XD
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Dec 6, 2007 17:07:50 GMT -5
Ooooooooh.
Okay. ^_^
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Post by Seltzer Grenadine on Dec 6, 2007 20:06:42 GMT -5
XD What, you gonna call me a fat ass?
I kid, I kid.
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Post by Kuja on Dec 7, 2007 7:36:24 GMT -5
Only Hollywood is into stick figures. Personally I like my women to look healthy. The actual size of a woman isn't that important to me, so long as she's a good person. And pretty, like me. This is the part where I break into song. "I like big butts and I can not lie..."
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Post by Xenos on Dec 10, 2007 11:44:37 GMT -5
Okay okay. Maybe it's just America, then. It's like men are so used to seeing people who are overweight that they have to swing in the COMPLETELY opposite direction. I like my s/o s healthy as well. I'll have to go with you on that, Kuja. ((Big butts are da bomb diggity.)) I guess it's just frustrating out here for women who DO "look healthy" because we're considered "Fat asses" ((No Setzer, that's not what I was gonna say.)) and so are not well looked on, even though we're genetically shaped this way.
Yes, Hollywood is into stick figures and it wasn't until just recently when Europe even made a step to try to keep the icon of beauty from being such. I have to respect Madrid for that-- hardcore. It's because of them and by the ad campaign by Dove that I thing that the view on female beauty is turning around. There are some damn gorgeous people out there who don't fall into "beauty" stereotypes. Women with curves or women with smaller breasts....
It's just something that we fight every day and I was just wondering if it was simply America, or if this stigma was worldwide.
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Post by Seltzer Grenadine on Dec 10, 2007 21:30:36 GMT -5
I know, I know. Was just messing with ya.
One of my buddies from school likes boy-shaped girls... but he's a stick, himself. Yeesh.
It's true, though. It's why I love classic art. The women-- venuses, common women and the like were often... buxom. Yeah, sometimes they were facially masculine, but the bodies were always full. I love that.
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Dec 11, 2007 1:00:20 GMT -5
America, eh? So all of this? XD One of your internet buddies is quite similar.
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Post by Kuja on Dec 11, 2007 7:06:46 GMT -5
One small thing that peeves me just a little is it'd becoming a stigma to like skinny girls these days. Sure, the media has turned every starlet into a skeleton with an eating disorder, and it's very unhealthy for young girls (and boys, but to a lesser extent) to see this image as normal. On the other hand though, there are people who have fetishes for obese partners, hairy partners, or even feet. A girl I work with is very skinny, but I find her very attractive too. And she's healthy (she flexed her bicep on the weekend and they were bigger than mine), but she's naturally thin. It's not a big deal, I just find that these days, saying you like 'skinny' girls is frowned upon by everyone except Hollywood and very vain men.
Nicole Ritchie = Ew.
Natalie Portman = Good God yes.
Britney Spears = Hell no
Katherine Heigl or Scarlet Johansen = Yes please
All body types can be pretty if you take care of yourself.
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Post by Seltzer Grenadine on Dec 11, 2007 15:16:00 GMT -5
One of your internet buddies is quite similar. No, no Alex. XD I meant in the bad way. He likes them all bones.
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Dec 12, 2007 1:41:15 GMT -5
Ooooh. Okay.
Also, yeah, I know where you're coming from, Kuja. My friend's ex-girlfriend used to ask me if I thought random models on posters were pretty and then call me shallow if I said yes. What the hell? Like I have to find all skinny women unattractive just because some of them look like zombies? Bah.
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Post by Xenos on Dec 12, 2007 10:45:27 GMT -5
It's just pisses me off (as a woman) to know that in the Unites States of America (you happy, Alex) to know that our entire mind-frame is based around what Hollywood shows us and the people who, in real life, would look grotesquely skinny have become what young men want and what young women want to be. Women strive to be these little skeleton wraiths without realizing that the women that they see are computer-edited so that they don't look ghastly. If it's your natural shape-- hell yeah! I mean, one of my childhood friends is this way. She's an atheletic little twig and she eats more than I could ever hope to! (Also the same with my boyfriend.) However, this is what the US ends up seeing as beautiful and others don't bother to take in their body-type into questioning before they go all out and FORCE themselves to appear.... skin-and-bones, if you will. I'm not saying it's wrong to like skinny girls, but to like skinny girls BECAUSE they're skinny, not because they're attractive.
Setzer, you can certainly say that here in these parts there are SO MANY twiggy girls that guys go gaga over who don't even have a good face. >:/ (The girls, not the guys.)
And another thing! Why do all hot guys/girls get paired up with ugly chicks/dudes?! (Okay, not all hot guys/girls.... but a lot of the ones you notice.)((Or, you know, hot girls with ugly chicks or hot guys with ugly dudes.....)) XD Maybe I'm just thinking about it too much.
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Post by Alexander THE GIRL on Dec 12, 2007 22:29:49 GMT -5
I nitpick because I care. ^_^;
Because GIRLS DON'T LIKE BOYS, GIRLS LIKE CARS AND MONEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-*gets shot...by self*
Ahem. Anyways, I keep trying to think of an answer, but typing the words "ugly people" keeps making me feel like the villain in a teen movie, so I'm just going to bow out of this one.
Besides the obvious butch/femme answer? As far as men go, I think it's just the process of elimination. I mean, if Hollywood has taught me everything, it's that 85%* of gay men are hot, 10%* are ugly, and 5%* are old (and probably hot for their age). Someone has to end up with the few ugly gay men out there, and the ugly men will be damned if it's going to be them.
For women it's the other way around. 90%* of gay women are ugly, 9.9%* are hot, and .1%* are the old women down my street who fell in love like thirty years ago. It's kind of creepy because one of them is like 60 and the other one is like 74. The older one had a family and everything, and then they just ran away together one day. Seriously, what the hell happened there? How did my mom even know that much about them? Do they just volunteer this stuff to random people who buy birds from them? Well, whatever. They're really cute together. Old people are cute sometimes, right? Is that just me? Whatever.
Anyways, the ugly lesbians are trying way harder to get the few hot lesbians, so they end up with them. That's especially hard because 40%* of lesbians in general are just straight women who hate men. *dodges brick thrown by Jess* 1
*This is a rough** estimate.
**Fictitious.
1. This whole post was a joke. For the love of all that is holy, please don't kill me.
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Post by Kuja on Dec 13, 2007 1:59:12 GMT -5
Dating someone ugly makes you feel better about yourself.
Also, drinking can lead to hooking up with someone below your level of hottness. Remember that one, kiddies.
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Post by Vincent Valentine on Dec 13, 2007 2:26:31 GMT -5
I can safely say through my own opinion that I know some really cute girls who are not the skin and bone types that many men go for, and because I personally see most of the hollywood type women as ugly sluts (Paris -f**k-me-in-a-porno- Hilton, etc.). I prefer my women to look like they actually are women because overly-thin/ano types just creep me out.
I must say, from the photo's Aerith has shared with us (well, through DeviantArt, mainly) I found my opinion of Aerith from the pics was I personally thought she was hot. But this is the kind of thing that's open to a person's interpretation, and how that person see's things in the world, or even themselves.
See, this is the kinda thing that is one of the world's many mysteries. Since so many people have such openly different opinions, there is no absolutely certain way to decipher the 'right kind of girl/guy' for everyone.
So many people can like the twig people, and some, as its been mentioned, can like the really big or hairy people. It's something that is difficult to comprehend, and even more difficult to decide on the perfect type for all people.
I have no qualms as to how she really looks, as long as I can be myself, and have fun with the girl, I'll follow her to the ends of the earth. '^^
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